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נזיר ד׳Nazir 4

Perek 4 of 9 in Nazir — 6 halakhot

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Halakhah 1א׳

Mishnah

משנה: מִי שֶׁאָמַר הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר וְשָׁמַע חֲבֵירוֹ וְאָמַר וַאֲנִי וַאֲנִי וַאֲנִי כּוּלָּן נְזִירִין. הוּתַּר הָרִאשׁוֹן הוּתְּרוּ כוּלָּן הוּתַּר הָאַחֲרוֹן הָאַחֲרוֹן מוּתָּר וְכוּלָּן אֲסוּרִין. הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר וְשָׁמַע חֲבֵירוֹ וְאָמַר פִּי כְפִיו וּשְׂעָרִי כִשְׂעָרוֹ הֲרֵי זֶה נָזִיר. הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר וְשָׁמְעָה אִשְׁתּוֹ וְאָמְרָה וַאֲנִי מֵיפֵר אֶת שֶׁלָּהּ וְשֶׁלּוֹ קַיָים. הֲרֵינִי נְזִירָה וְשָׁמַע בַּעֲלָהּ וְאָמַר וַאֲנִי אֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְהָפֵר.

MISHNAH: If somebody said “I am a nazir” and another person heard it and said, “and so am I”, “and so am I”, “and so am I”, all of them are nezirim. If the first one was permitted, all are permitted; if the last was permitted, the last is permitted and all others forbidden. “I am a nazir” and another person heard it and said, “my mouth is as his mouth and my hair as his hair,” he is a nazir. “I am a nazir” and his wife heard it and said, “and so am I”, he can dissolve hers but his vow remains. “I am a nezirah” and her husband heard it and said, “and so am I”, he cannot dissolve.

Halakhah

הלכה: מִי שֶׁאָמַר. הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר. וְשָׁמַע חֲבֵירוֹ וְאָמַר. וַאֲנִי כול׳. כֵּן הִיא מַתְנִיתָא. וַאֲנִי וַאֲנִי. מָאן תַּנָּא וָוִים. רִבִּי יוּדָה. בְּרַם כְּרִבִּי מֵאִיר. אֲנִי אֲנִי. מַתְנִיתָא שֶׁהָיוּ כּוּלְּהֶם בְּתוֹךְ כְּדֵי דִיבּוּרוֹ שֶׁלָּרִאשׁוֹן. תַּנֵּי. הוּתַּר הָאֶמְצָעִי. מִמֶּנּוּ וּלְמַטָּן מוּתָּר. מִמֶּנּוּ וּלְמַעֲלָן אָסוּר. מַתְנִיתָא אֲפִילוּ אֵין כּוּלְּהֶם בְּתוֹךְ כְּדֵי דִיבּוּרוֹ שֶׁלָּרִאשׁוֹן אֶלָּא בְּתוֹךְ כְּדֵי דִּיבּוּרוֹ שֶׁלָּזֶה וְזֶה בְּתוֹךְ כְּדֵי דִּיבּוּרוֹ שֶׁלָּזֶה. כַּמָּה הוּא כְּדֵי דִיבּוּרוֹ. רִבִּי סִימוֹן בְּשֶׁם רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי. כְּדֵי שְׁאֵילַת שָׁלוֹם בֵּין אָדָם לַחֲבֵירוֹ. אַבָּא בַּר בַּר חָנָה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. כְּדֵי שְׁאֵילַת שֵׁלוֹם בֵּין הָרַב לַתַּלְמִיד וְיֹאמֶר לוֹ. שָׁלוֹם עָלֶיךָ רִבִּי.

HALAKHAH: “If somebody said ‘I am a nazir’ and another person heard it and said, ‘and so am I’,” etc. So is the Mishnah: “and so am I”, “and so am I”. Who is the Tanna of conjunctions? Rebbi Jehudah. But following Rebbi Meïr, “I am,” “I am”. Does the Mishnah require that all of them follow immediately after the speaking of the first? It was stated: If the middle one was permitted, all following him are permitted, all preceding him are forbidden. The Mishnah applies even if not all of them follow immediately after the speaking of the first, but each one follows immediately after the speaking of the preceding person. What means “to follow immediately after the speaking”? Rebbi Simon in the name of Rebbi Joshua ben Levi: The time needed for greeting between two people. Abba bar bar Ḥana in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: The time needed for greeting between teacher and student, that he say to him, “peace upon you, my master.”

אֶחָד שֶׁאָמַר. הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר מֵאָה יוֹם. וְשָׁמַע חֲבֵירוֹ וְאָמַר. וַאֲנִי מֵאָה יוֹם. וְחָזַר וְאָמַר. וַאֲנִי. נַעֲשֶׂה עִיקָּר טְפֵילָה. אֶחָד שֶׁאָמַר. הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר. וְאָמַר. אֲנִי. בְּתוֹךְ דִּיבּוּרוֹ שֶׁלָּרִאשׁוֹן. וְשָׁמַע חֲבֵירוֹ וְאָמַר. וַאֲנִי. בְּתוֹךְ כְּדֵי דִּיבּוּרוֹ שֶׁלַּשֵּׁינִי. הוּתַּר הָרִאשׁוֹן הוּתַּר הַשֵּׁנִי. הוּתַּר הַשֵּׁינִי לֹא הוּתַּר הַשְּׁלִישִּׁי. אֶחָד שֶׁאָמַר. הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר שְׁתַּיִם. וְשָׁמְעוּ שְׁנַיִם וְאָמְרוּ. וְאָנוּ. נְזִירִין שְׁתַּיִם אוֹ כָּל אֶחָד וְאֶחָד שְׁתַּיִם. הוּא הוּתַּר הוּתְּרוּ הֵן. לֹא הוּתַּר הוּא. שְׁנַיִם שֶׁאָמְרוּ. הֲרֵי אָנוּ נְזִירִין. וְשָׁמַע אֶחָד וְאָמַר. וַאֲנִי. תַּחַת שְׁנֵיהֶן נָזַר אוֹ תַחַת כָּל אֶחָד וְאֶחָד נָזַר. הוּתְּרוּ הֵן היום הוּא. הוּתַּר הן לֹא הוּתְּרוּ הֵן.

If one said, “I am a nazir for 100 days, and another heard it and said, “so am I for 100 days”, and repeated and said, “so am I”, the main [statement] becomes an accessory. If one said, “I am a nazir;” somebody said “and I” following immediately the first, another heard it and said, “so am I” following immediately the second. If the first became permitted, so does the second. If the second became permitted, the third was not permitted. If one said, “I am a nazir twice,” and two people heard it and said, “so are we”, are they two nezirim or is each of them a nazir twice? If he was permitted, they were permitted. He was not permitted. If two said, “we are nezirim,” another heard it and said, “so am I,” did he make a vow regarding both of them or did he make a vow parallel to each of them? If they were permitted, [he] was permitted; if [he] was permitted, they were not permitted.

פִּי מִן הַיַּיִן. רֹאשִי מִן הַתִּגְלַחַת. יָדִי מִן הַטּוּמְאָה. רַגְלִי מִן הַטּוּמְאָה. רֹאשִׁי נָזִיר. כְּבֵידִי נְזִירָה. נָזִיר. הִילּוּכִי נָזִיר דִּיבּוּרִי נָזִיר. לֹא אָמַר כְּלוּם. לָמָּה. שֶׁהִתְפִּיס אֶת הַנֶּדֶר בְּדָבָר שֶׁהַנְּשָׁמָה תְלוּיָה בוֹ. נֶדֶר נֶדֶר. מַה נֶדֶר שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר לְהַלָּן דָּבָר שֶׁהַנְּשָׁמָה תְלוּיָה בוֹ. אַף נֶדֶר שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר כָּאן דָּבָר שֶׁהַנְּשָׁמָה תְלוּיָה בוֹ.

“My mouth [shall be nazir] from wine, my head from shaving, my hand from impurity, my foot from impurity; my head shall be nazir; my liver shall be nezirah,” he is a nazir. “My walking shall be nazir; my talking shall be nazir”; he did not say anything. Why? Because he referred the vow to something on which life depends. “Vow, vow.” Just as “vow” mentioned there refers to something on which life depends, so “vow” mentioned here refers to something on which life depends.

הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר וְאַתּ כול׳. הוּתָּר הוּא הִיא הוּתְּרָה. הוּתְּרָה הִיא הוּא לֹא הוּתָּר.

“ “I am a nazir, and you,” etc. If he was permitted, she is permitted. If she was permitted, he is not permitted.

מָה הֵן וַאֲנִי. מָה אַתְּ עֲבַד לָהּ. בְּאָמֵן וְקַיָים לָךְ. אוֹ יָפֶה עָשִׂית. דְּחִיָיה רוֹבָה וְרִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה רוֹבָה. תַּנֵּי. הָאִשָּׁה שֶׁנָּזְרָה בַנָּזִיר וְשָׁמַע בַּעֲלָהּ וְאָמַר לָהּ. מָה רָאִית שֶׁתְּזוֹרִי. מַדּוּעַ עָשִׂית שֶׁנָּזַרְתְּ. וְלֹא הָיִיתִי רוֹצֶה שֶׁתְּזוֹרִי. אֵין כָּאן נֶדֶר אֵין כָּאן שְׁבוּעָה. לֹא אָמַר כְּלוּם. אֲבָל אִם אָמַר. יָפֶה עָשִׂית שֶׁנָּזַרְתְּ. וְכָךְ הָיִיתִי רוֹצֶה שֶׁתְּזוֹרִי. וְאִילּוּ לֹא נָזַרְתְּ הָיִיתִי מַזִּירָךְ. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי חִיָיה. כּוּלְּהֶם אֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְהָפֵר. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה. כּוּלְּהֶם יָכוֹל לְהָפֵר. עַד שֶׁיֹּאמַר בְּאָמֵן וְקַיָים לִיךְ עוֹד אֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְהָפֵר.

What about, “and so am I,” how do you treat this? As “amen, it is confirmed for you,” or “you did well”? The elder [Rebbi] Ḥiyya and the elder Rebbi Hoshaia. It is stated: If a woman made a vow to be a nazir; her husband heard and said to her, “why did you make a vow of nazir? What did you do to make a vow of nazir? I would not like that you made a vow of nazir! There is neither vow nor oath here;” he did not say anything. But if he said, “you did well that you did make a vow of nazir; I liked that you did make a vow of nazir; if you had not made a vow of nazir I would have told you to make one”, Rebbi Ḥiyya stated on this, in all of these cases he cannot dissolve. But Rebbi Hoshaia stated: In all these cases, he can dissolve unless he said “amen” or “it is confirmed for you”, then he can no longer dissolve.

Halakhah 2ב׳

Mishnah

משנה: הֲרֵינִי נָזִיר וְאַתְּ וְאָמְרָה אָמֵן מֵפֵר אֶת שֶׁלָּהּ וְשֶׁלּוֹ בָטֵל. הֲרֵינִי נְזִירָה וְאַתָּה וְאָמַר אָמֵן אֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְהָפֵר.

MISHNAH: “I am a nazir, and you?” If she said “amen”, he may dissolve hers, and his is void. “I am nezirah, and you?” If he said “amen”, he cannot dissolve.

Halakhah

הלכה: הוּתְּרָה הִיא הוּתַּר הוּא. הוּתַּר הוּא לֹא הוּתְּרָה הִיא. רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא כְתוֹלֶה נִדְרוֹ בָהּ. בְּאוֹמֵר עַל מְנָת וְאַתְּ.

HALAKHAH: If she is permitted, he is permitted. If he is permitted, she is not permitted. Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Because he makes his vow conditional on hers, if he says, on condition that you [accept].

רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. הַבַּעַל שֶׁאָמַר. אֵין כָּאן נֵדֶר אֵין כָּאן שְׁבוּעָה. לֹא אָמַר כְּלוּם. זָקֵן שֶׁאָמַר. מוּפָר לֵיךְ בָּטֵל לֵיךְ. לֹא אָמַר כְּלוּם. אֶלָּא זֶה כְהִילְכָתוֹ וְזֶה כְהִילְכָתוֹ. הַבַּעַל אוֹמֵר. מוּפָר לֵיךְ בָּטֵל לֵיךְ. וְזָקֵן אוֹמֵר. אֵין כָּאן נֵדֶר אֵין כָּאן שְׁבוּעָה.

Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: The husband who said “there is no vow, there is no oath,” did not say anything. Also the Elder who said “it is dissolved for you, it is voided for you,” did not say anything. But everybody has to follow his own rules. The husband says “it is dissolved for you, it is voided for you,” and the Elder says, “there is no vow, there is no oath”.

…and 2 more halakhot in this perek.

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The Jerusalem Talmud, edition by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer, De Gruyter 1999–2015, via Sefaria — CC BY

English: The Jerusalem Talmud, translation by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer, De Gruyter 1999–2015, via Sefaria — CC BY